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Multisport Function
« on: May 02, 2010, 10:38:34 am »

Hello Globalsat-Team

it would be fine if the transition times are saved also as separate laps.
At the moment, I think they are totally cutted off  >:(. Thats not okay, because the times for the transitions are included in the totaltime in every multisport-competition.

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 05:58:28 am »

Hello,
I think a choice of including or excluding transition times would be good. In that way you can include them in a race and exclude them in a workout where you're only interested in the workout time.

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 10:17:30 am »

Hi Longjog,

It is ok to include transition as separate Lap. Does it need to consider into total performance likes average speed/pace and total time?

Hi Jonas,

To be able to set include and exclude will be not user friendly. To keep as separate Lap would be easier and better. Please advise.


Sincerely,

Geoffrey :D
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2010, 12:57:08 am »

It is ok to include transition as separate Lap. Does it need to consider into total performance likes average speed/pace and total time?
Sincerely,

Geoffrey :D
Hi Geoffrey,
I like to answer your question. ;D
After the triathlon the following values are interesting:
1. overall time from start (swim) to finish (run), including transition-times with AVG HR
2. Swim-time: start swim - end swim with AVG Pace and AVG HR
3. transition-time1: end swim start bike
4. bike time: start bike - end bike with AVG Speed and AVG HR
5. transition-time2: end bike - start run
6. run-time: start run - finish with AVG pace and AVG HR
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2010, 03:06:59 am »

It is ok to include transition as separate Lap. Does it need to consider into total performance likes average speed/pace and total time?
Sincerely,

Geoffrey :D
Hi Geoffrey,
I like to answer your question. ;D
After the triathlon the following values are interesting:
1. overall time from start (swim) to finish (run), including transition-times with AVG HR
2. Swim-time: start swim - end swim with AVG Pace and AVG HR
3. transition-time1: end swim start bike
4. bike time: start bike - end bike with AVG Speed and AVG HR
5. transition-time2: end bike - start run
6. run-time: start run - finish with AVG pace and AVG HR

Hi Longjog,

Thanks for suggestion!
Another question, does the total performance calculation needs to include transition time? Such as: Total AVG SPEED: (Swim dist+Bike dist+Run dist)/(Swimg time+Transition1 +Bike time+Transition2+Run time)?


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Geoffrey
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2010, 07:44:16 am »

Another question, does the total performance calculation needs to include transition time? Such as: Total AVG SPEED: (Swim dist+Bike dist+Run dist)/(Swimg time+Transition1 +Bike time+Transition2+Run time)?
Sincerely,
Geoffrey
Hi Geoffrey,

I think this values are not really very interesting, but if you are calculating the total AVG values, then tansition times have to be included. (in triathlon transitions are the fourth disciplin  ;)).

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2010, 10:58:34 am »

Another question, does the total performance calculation needs to include transition time? Such as: Total AVG SPEED: (Swim dist+Bike dist+Run dist)/(Swimg time+Transition1 +Bike time+Transition2+Run time)?
Sincerely,
Geoffrey
Hi Geoffrey,

I think this values are not really very interesting, but if you are calculating the total AVG values, then tansition times have to be included. (in triathlon transitions are the fourth disciplin  ;)).

Regards

Longjog

Hi Longjog,

Thanks for explanation.
I will discuss with engineer about the implementation. :D

Sincerely,

Geoffrey
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 05:45:45 am »

Longjog,
If I understood correctly, you are triathlet as well?
So, have you already test GH-505 when swimming?
If yes, how it working on water, does HRM recording work fine also?

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 12:36:35 pm »

Hi Rookie,

you are right, Im also a triathlet. No, I not have tested the GH-505 in the water up to now. It is a little cold outside and indoor there is not much sense in Using GPS-function. But you are right. HRM-Function in water is interesting. I will test it next swim-training and post it then.

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 04:37:43 pm »

Thanks longjog,

I'll stay tuned  ;)

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 01:59:45 pm »

Hello,

today Ive tested GH-505 while Indoor-swimtraining.
It seems the transmitting of heartrate doesnt work very well while swimming.
Recorded HR-values are between 1 and 155 bpm. When I was standing still in the water after a while the value seems to be okay, but when you go on swimming the values are wrong again.
Im sorry.

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 03:32:04 pm »

Thanks longjog,

Actually I would be pretty surpised if it would worked while swimming, because other brands who used same frequency they don't promise its working under water.

So, this wasn't big shock for me but it is good to know for users who expecting HRM measurement working also while swim.

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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2010, 10:51:48 am »

Hello,

today Ive tested GH-505 while Indoor-swimtraining.
It seems the transmitting of heartrate doesnt work very well while swimming.
Recorded HR-values are between 1 and 155 bpm. When I was standing still in the water after a while the value seems to be okay, but when you go on swimming the values are wrong again.
Im sorry.

Regards

Longjog

Hi Longjog,

I think other brand will have the same problem, because we purchase from the same belt supplier. ;)
The reason is the resonate frequency from water is as same as 2.4GHz belt, so the water will absorb the major energy to lead receive not well.

Sincerely,

Geoffrey
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 01:41:12 pm »

Hi all,

although swimming isn't my favorite sport...
   - I am a runner and so my first priority are functions related to running. I think, I will leave
     functions intended for swimmers or bikers to other testers.
I went out for swimming this morning to perform a little test with my GH-505.
As we already know, that HRM will not work I left the belt at home and I just wanted
to see, how the watch works in the water and how GPS works during (outdoor) swimming.

Before I did this, I have to admit that I was a little bit afraid to destroy the watch
when taking it with me into the water. But after a while in the water I trusted the watch
more and more and finally I felt very comfortable and forgot all concerns.

However - the negative result was: GPS doesn't work neither in the water  :(
I wanted to check, if I'm able to swim a certain distance in a given time,
but I didn't have a feeling for the distance. So I thought, the GPS function could help me.
It did not.
As soon as I put my arm into the water, the GPS fix was lost and the watch wasn't
able to record anything. When holding the arm outside the water, GPS fix was recovered
after a few seconds. But during swimming is didn't work.

For me its not a problem. I don't want to use the watch for swimming.
The swimmers and triathlets may decide, if they need HRM and GPS in the water,
or maybe it will be enough to have just one universal watch for all sports...

Regards, Hubert
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Re: Multisport Function
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 04:27:50 pm »


For me its not a problem. I don't want to use the watch for swimming.
The swimmers and triathlets may decide, if they need HRM and GPS in the water,
or maybe it will be enough to have just one universal watch for all sports...

Regards, Hubert
Most important thing is that I can use one device from start to finish line and get overall time and time for every splits and transitions.
HRM ang GPS would be very nice additional feature while swimming but I can live without those if it is impossible to solve (as far I know HRM is not possible under water with ANT+). Anyway, good luck with improving swimming features.

Time ago I proposed to add feature which count distanse during indoor swimming. This could be possible to do by compass which count how many turns you are done. Lets say, when you are swim same direction, whatch will add one lap a.s.o.

What you think, could this be possible to implement?

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